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Arthur and the Chamberlain sisters.

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Arthur H Shaw

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Victoria Chamberlain

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Lydia Chamberlain

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Early 1880s?

If you look at Lavinia’s album you can see that the first few pages are dedicated to her brothers and sisters. Except for this photo of her brother Arthur, the photos were all were produced by the Lindt studio likely all on the same day. Arthur’s alone is by Johnstone, O’Shanessey & Co. of 3 Bourke St who according to Davies and Stanton operated using this name and address from 1865 until 1886. Arthur doesn’t look much older than 20 here so maybe this was an earlier photo used to make up the 1884 set?

In 1888 Arthur married Victoria Chamberlain. Her portrait above was taken at the Elizabeth Street studio of E.C. Waddington and although Davies and Stanton have them there 1883 -1884 an Argus item mentions them opening the store in November 1880. Lydia Chamberlain was Victoria’s younger sister and possibly this one of her was taken there the same day.

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I’ve since found the photograph below. Taken in 1869 of the extended Delbridge family outside their Fitzroy home it includes the Chamberlains towards the right. In front of their parents the two young girls are identically dressed and flank their baby brother who perches white-gowned on a tasseled cushion topping a high stool.

Mythian Terrace

Mythian Terrace

This image is held by the Fitzroy Library and appears on Picture Victoria here.
Their caption (slightly corrected) is “Mythian Terrace (now 103 Kerr Street), was built in 1864 for Edward and Mary Delbridge and family. The estimated date of the photograph is Christmas 1869 or New Year 1869/70.
Photograph shows left to right in back row: Joseph Martyn Delbridge, Thomas Delbridge, John Delbridge, Isaac Delbridge, Edward Delbridge, Mary(Pearce) Delbridge, Edward Martyn Delbridge, John James Symons, Mary Jane(Delbridge) Vivian, George R.R. Vivian, Eliza (Chamberlain) Delbridge, Robert Henry Chamberlain, Henry Berry.
Front row left to right: Mary Ann Alice(Middleton) Delbridge, Hedley George Delbridge(baby), Minnie Delbridge, Harriet(Baldwin)Delbridge, Pearce Delbridge, Lucy Delbridge, Frederick Delbridge(baby), Amy Delbridge, Emma(Collom)Delbridge, Ernest Edward Delbridge(baby), William R.Delbridge, Mary Louisa Delbridge,Edith Ann Delbridge, Ada Elizabeth Delbridge, Edward Delbridge Vivian, George R.R.II Vivian, Thomas Phillips Vivian, Isaac Hannibal Vivian, Annie Elizabeth Vivian, Victoria Louisa Chamberlain, Mary Lydia Chamberlain, Edward Delbridge Chamberlain(baby), Louisa Delbridge)Berry, Lydia Delbridge, Edith Berry(baby), Henry Parton May Berry. A baby, Lydia Vida Vivian (born July 1886) appears to be missing. The step-son of Elizabeth Symnons (Thomas Symons, born 1850) is also missing.”

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“Mrs Robert Chamberlain”

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Our album also contains this photo simply captioned by Lavinia “Mrs Robert Chamberlain”. The first Mrs Chamberlain, Eliza Delbridge of the Mythian Terrace photo above, died in 1870 and Robert remarried in Yorkshire in 1872. So which “Mrs Robert Chamberlain” appears here? The photographer’s identity doesn’t help much. We see that he was Thomas Foster Chuck of Royal Arcade (on the front) and of Collins Street East (on the back). According to Davies and Stanbury T.F.Chuck operated in Melbourne between 1864 and 1876 at various addresses – “Royal Arcade, Collins Street” from 1864 to 1876; “4 Collins St East” in 1869 and “Royal Arcade, Bourke Street East” from 1870 to 1876.
Going back to the Mythian Terrace group we see Mrs Chamberlain as a reasonably thin faced women. At the time Eliza had suffered from Phthisis (TB) for nearly two years and was to die within a few months. It is just possible that the photo here shows her at an earlier, healthier time but I’m not convinced. The two women appear to me very different, Robert looks more 40 here than early 30s and to me this looks to be a photo of the early 1870s not one of the mid 1860s. I would guess we are looking at a photo of 26 year old Lydia Moorhouse, the second Mrs Chamberlain. It was probably taken in 1872 on their return from England.

Everything I’ve looked at while putting this together seems to have uncovered another connection between the Chamberlains, Fitzroy and the Shaws but I’m going to save those for later and post this now.

Some of the Sources

1. 1881 ‘Advertising.’, The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957), 5 March, p. 12, viewed 9 June, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5988505
Waddington at 109 Elizabeth (column 4 towards the bottom)

2. The Mythian Terrace image is held by the Fitzroy Library and appears on Picture Victoria here.

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Lavinia’s Other Album

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This album was given to my great aunt Mary Shaw by her great aunt Lavinia Shaw. The title page is embossed with “DUNN & COLLINS, BOOKSELLERS, OPPOSITE POST OFFICE, MELBOURNE”. Dunn and Collins operated from this address from 1876 (“HINDOO SATIRES on AMMONIAC SQUIRTS in SNAKE-BITES. Sold by Dunn and Collins, booksellers, opposite Post-office, Melbourne. Extracts appear weekly in Collingwood Mercury”) until about 1885. They moved down Bourke street a bit before closing down in 1887.

This and the dates of the photos within would suggest that Lavinia started this album around 1880 when she was about 18. The “For a Birthday” sticker looks to me to be from around 1920 so maybe this was a birthday present from Lavinia to Mary when she was about the same age. It seems likely that Lavinia added the captions at this time. (Looking further he captions include “The Murrays’ Wedding” which was 1929 so maybe given to Mary later – or is the bookplate earlier and referring to Lavinia?). Mary added a number of captions later.

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“Mrs McIntoch”

In pride of place, before the photo of “Mother” is “Mrs McIntoch“. Considering the following pages showing her siblings in descending order of age I’m guessing this frame was originally occupied by “Father”. I’m not sure I’ve seen Alfred in CdV – his portraits seem all to be the much larger Cabinet cards.So who was Mrs McIntoch? Stewart & Co operated in Melbourne from 1871 until the early 1900s and a similar portrait at SLV is dated 1881. This would fit with the only other Shaw album photograph by this photographer showing Lavinia’s siblings Herbert and Effie aged about 11 and 14. Maybe she was a governess? Or a friend of Lavinia’s?

If the photo was taken about 1880 and we assume she was in her twenties at the time, her marriage must have taken place in the 1870s. The name McIntoch is extremely uncommon and only two marriages appear for men of this name in Australia in the years leading up to 1880. If she was really McIntosh then there were about 20 possible marriages in Victoria in that decade.

For now she will have to remain a mystery. If the Victorian marriage certificates ever become freely available we may be able to narrow down the candidates.

Some of the Sources

WalkingMelbourne Forum Post “Thanks for posting that wonderful old faded sign “Stationer & Printer’ in the Tramways Building shop front. The business was owned by my husband’s 2x great grandfather, John Collins, 1849-1911. He operated the shop there from 1902 until his tragic death in 1911, and it appears one of his sons continued there until about 1919, when the business disappears from the directories.
John Collins had previously been in partnership with Francis Gregory Dunn and Thomas Carter, as “Dunn, Carter and Collins” as early as 1871, when they had a store in Smith St, Collingwood in “The Arcade”. Does anyone know where this arcade might have been ? Carter left the business in Jun 1876. Dunn and Collins continued on, also having a shop on the corner of Bourke and Elizabeth Streets, diagonally opposite the GPO. I believe they were there until about 1885. Kozminsky jewelers were on that site shortly thereafter.”

1876 ‘Advertising.’, The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957), 20 June, p. 8, viewed 8 June, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5892453
DISSOLUTION of PARTNERSHIP. — Notice is hereby given, that the PARTNERSHIP hitherto subsisting between us, the undersigned, as Booksellers and Stationers, under the respective styles of “Dunn, Carter, and Company ” and “Dunn, Carter and Collins,” has this day been DISSOLVED by mutual consent ; and that the said business will henceforth be carried on under the style of ” Dunn and Collins ” by the underslgned, Francis Gregory Dunn and John Collins the Younger, by whom all debts due to and by the late firm will be received and paid. Dated at Melbourne this 14th day of June, A D. 1876. F. G. DUNN. JOHN COLLINS. THOS. CARTER, Witness-W. H. C. Darvall, solicitor, Melbourne.

1876 ‘Advertising.’, The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957), 4 September, p. 8, viewed 8 June, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5901147
HINDOO SATIRES on AMMONIAC SQUIRTS in SNAKE-BITES. Sold by Dunn and Collins, booksellers, opposite Post-office, Melbourne. Extracts appear weekly in ” Collingwood Mercury.”

More J W Lindt Portraits

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Alfred

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Fred Vail

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Ernest

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The portraits of Alfred and Ernest may belong to the same set as the four in the previous post but it is interesting to note the different formats used – rectangular for Alfred and the rounded corners for Ernest. The centre portrait appears a few pages further on in Lavinia’s album and is captioned “Fred Vail“, probably by Lavinia. It seems likely that Fred Vail was a school friend of Ernest’s but if so he would have been 20 in 1884. Was it an earlier photo on a Lindt card?

Herbert & Effie Shaw

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From the second page of Lavinia‘s album. The back is blank and Mary Shaw has added “Herbert & Eva ?1882” next to the photograph.

Herbert Shaw was Mary’s father so there seems little doubt that this is him. Mary knew Eva Shaw (born Mar 1871) for many years so there should be no doubt about this identification. Having said that I’m having trouble sorting the photos of Eva and her sister Effie Shaw born March 1868. From other photos it seems to be Effie with these eyes (a bit like brother Ernest) and Eva with a softer, rounder face. If this was taken in mid 1881 then Herbert would have been nearly 13, Eva just 11 and Effie just 14.

The photographer being Stewart & Co doesn’t help much with the dating as a number of web sources agree that they operated at 217 & 219 Bourke from 1879 until at least the 1890s.

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Alfred & Amelia Shaw

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This photo is from the first page of the same album. Lavinia has written “Alfred & Amelia” on the back and Mary Shaw’s caption is “Alfred & Amelia ?1864”.

Alfred Heywood Shaw was born in January 1858 and his sister Amelia Sarah Shaw in July 1861. Estimating the children’s ages in this and the companion photo of Arthur and Lavinia suggests to me that 1866 might be a better date than 1864.

Either date would fit with G. W. Perry’s operation at 49 Elizabeth Street from 1863 to 1871 (see ‘More Information’ against another Perry photo)

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Arthur Henry Shaw

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This photo is from the 3rd page of an album originally owned by Lavinia Shaw. “Arthur” in what looks like Lavinia’s hand appears on the back and the subject is most likely her older brother Arthur Shaw. Much later her niece Mary Shaw has added “Arthur Shaw ?1860” under the photo.

Arthur was born in June 1859 and at a guess this child is two or three putting the date of the photo at about 1862. From the back of the photograph T. F. Chuck was the photographer. The State Library of Victoria holds a similar Chuck Photo with the note “Not dated but T. F. Chuck operated from 19 Royal Arcade, Melbourne, 1864-1876. Ref.: Australians behind the camera, directory of early Australian photographers, 1841-1945 / Sandy Barrie, 2002.”

A second copy of this photograph is in Lavinia’s other album. Mary(?) has written “Arthur” under it.

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Hannah Shaw

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This photo of Hannah Shaw (nee Heywood) is from an album originally owned by Lavinia Shaw.  “Mrs Hannah Shaw nee Heywood  ?1880” was added by her niece Mary Shaw.  “Mother” in what looks like Lavinia’s hand appears on the back.

Davies and Stanbury in “The Mechanical Eye” have Thomas Bertenshaw operating from Gertrude Street, Fitzroy from 1859 to 1866 and to my eye this would fit better than 1880 with the style of the photo and Hannah’s age.

The State Library of Victoria has a Bertenshaw portrait showing what looks like the same curtain.

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This second copy of the same photo seems to answer a question raised in the previous post on Dinah Heywood.

There seems little doubt that the Bertenshaw version was created in the early 1860s so we have here a second copy glued to an Elliott card from the 1880s.

Hannah and Dinah both died within weeks of each other in 1884. Did the family have multiple copies of earlier photos of the two women printed by F. E. Elliott which were then attached to his own cards? It sounds likely but still leaves a small question around the “Mrs Tucker” caption.

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I have seen two other photos of Hannah. I was sent a digital copy of the photo on the left but am unsure of its origin. It looks like it may pre-date the one above – maybe the 1850s?

On the right is a scan from a glass plate from the estate of Mary Shaw.  It appears to be of Alfred Shaw and family taken in the mid 1860s. I’m a little uncertain but I’ve tentatively identified Hannah standing beside her husband with their children Alfred, Amelia, Lavinia and Arthur, and a seated nurse.

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Shaw Family

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