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Arthur and the Chamberlain sisters.

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Arthur H Shaw

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Victoria Chamberlain

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Lydia Chamberlain

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Early 1880s?

If you look at Lavinia’s album you can see that the first few pages are dedicated to her brothers and sisters. Except for this photo of her brother Arthur, the photos were all were produced by the Lindt studio likely all on the same day. Arthur’s alone is by Johnstone, O’Shanessey & Co. of 3 Bourke St who according to Davies and Stanton operated using this name and address from 1865 until 1886. Arthur doesn’t look much older than 20 here so maybe this was an earlier photo used to make up the 1884 set?

In 1888 Arthur married Victoria Chamberlain. Her portrait above was taken at the Elizabeth Street studio of E.C. Waddington and although Davies and Stanton have them there 1883 -1884 an Argus item mentions them opening the store in November 1880. Lydia Chamberlain was Victoria’s younger sister and possibly this one of her was taken there the same day.

MYTHIAN TERRACE

I’ve since found the photograph below. Taken in 1869 of the extended Delbridge family outside their Fitzroy home it includes the Chamberlains towards the right. In front of their parents the two young girls are identically dressed and flank their baby brother who perches white-gowned on a tasseled cushion topping a high stool.

Mythian Terrace

Mythian Terrace

This image is held by the Fitzroy Library and appears on Picture Victoria here.
Their caption (slightly corrected) is “Mythian Terrace (now 103 Kerr Street), was built in 1864 for Edward and Mary Delbridge and family. The estimated date of the photograph is Christmas 1869 or New Year 1869/70.
Photograph shows left to right in back row: Joseph Martyn Delbridge, Thomas Delbridge, John Delbridge, Isaac Delbridge, Edward Delbridge, Mary(Pearce) Delbridge, Edward Martyn Delbridge, John James Symons, Mary Jane(Delbridge) Vivian, George R.R. Vivian, Eliza (Chamberlain) Delbridge, Robert Henry Chamberlain, Henry Berry.
Front row left to right: Mary Ann Alice(Middleton) Delbridge, Hedley George Delbridge(baby), Minnie Delbridge, Harriet(Baldwin)Delbridge, Pearce Delbridge, Lucy Delbridge, Frederick Delbridge(baby), Amy Delbridge, Emma(Collom)Delbridge, Ernest Edward Delbridge(baby), William R.Delbridge, Mary Louisa Delbridge,Edith Ann Delbridge, Ada Elizabeth Delbridge, Edward Delbridge Vivian, George R.R.II Vivian, Thomas Phillips Vivian, Isaac Hannibal Vivian, Annie Elizabeth Vivian, Victoria Louisa Chamberlain, Mary Lydia Chamberlain, Edward Delbridge Chamberlain(baby), Louisa Delbridge)Berry, Lydia Delbridge, Edith Berry(baby), Henry Parton May Berry. A baby, Lydia Vida Vivian (born July 1886) appears to be missing. The step-son of Elizabeth Symnons (Thomas Symons, born 1850) is also missing.”

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“Mrs Robert Chamberlain”

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Mrs Chamberlain

Our album also contains this photo simply captioned by Lavinia “Mrs Robert Chamberlain”. The first Mrs Chamberlain, Eliza Delbridge of the Mythian Terrace photo above, died in 1870 and Robert remarried in Yorkshire in 1872. So which “Mrs Robert Chamberlain” appears here? The photographer’s identity doesn’t help much. We see that he was Thomas Foster Chuck of Royal Arcade (on the front) and of Collins Street East (on the back). According to Davies and Stanbury T.F.Chuck operated in Melbourne between 1864 and 1876 at various addresses – “Royal Arcade, Collins Street” from 1864 to 1876; “4 Collins St East” in 1869 and “Royal Arcade, Bourke Street East” from 1870 to 1876.
Going back to the Mythian Terrace group we see Mrs Chamberlain as a reasonably thin faced women. At the time Eliza had suffered from Phthisis (TB) for nearly two years and was to die within a few months. It is just possible that the photo here shows her at an earlier, healthier time but I’m not convinced. The two women appear to me very different, Robert looks more 40 here than early 30s and to me this looks to be a photo of the early 1870s not one of the mid 1860s. I would guess we are looking at a photo of 26 year old Lydia Moorhouse, the second Mrs Chamberlain. It was probably taken in 1872 on their return from England.

Everything I’ve looked at while putting this together seems to have uncovered another connection between the Chamberlains, Fitzroy and the Shaws but I’m going to save those for later and post this now.

Some of the Sources

1. 1881 ‘Advertising.’, The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957), 5 March, p. 12, viewed 9 June, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5988505
Waddington at 109 Elizabeth (column 4 towards the bottom)

2. The Mythian Terrace image is held by the Fitzroy Library and appears on Picture Victoria here.

Lavinia’s Other Album

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Cover

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Frontispiece

The Album

This album was given to my great aunt Mary Shaw by her great aunt Lavinia Shaw. The title page is embossed with “DUNN & COLLINS, BOOKSELLERS, OPPOSITE POST OFFICE, MELBOURNE”. Dunn and Collins operated from this address from 1876 (“HINDOO SATIRES on AMMONIAC SQUIRTS in SNAKE-BITES. Sold by Dunn and Collins, booksellers, opposite Post-office, Melbourne. Extracts appear weekly in Collingwood Mercury”) until about 1885. They moved down Bourke street a bit before closing down in 1887.

This and the dates of the photos within would suggest that Lavinia started this album around 1880 when she was about 18. The “For a Birthday” sticker looks to me to be from around 1920 so maybe this was a birthday present from Lavinia to Mary when she was about the same age. It seems likely that Lavinia added the captions at this time. (Looking further he captions include “The Murrays’ Wedding” which was 1929 so maybe given to Mary later – or is the bookplate earlier and referring to Lavinia?). Mary added a number of captions later.

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“Mrs McIntoch”

In pride of place, before the photo of “Mother” is “Mrs McIntoch“. Considering the following pages showing her siblings in descending order of age I’m guessing this frame was originally occupied by “Father”. I’m not sure I’ve seen Alfred in CdV – his portraits seem all to be the much larger Cabinet cards.So who was Mrs McIntoch? Stewart & Co operated in Melbourne from 1871 until the early 1900s and a similar portrait at SLV is dated 1881. This would fit with the only other Shaw album photograph by this photographer showing Lavinia’s siblings Herbert and Effie aged about 11 and 14. Maybe she was a governess? Or a friend of Lavinia’s?

If the photo was taken about 1880 and we assume she was in her twenties at the time, her marriage must have taken place in the 1870s. The name McIntoch is extremely uncommon and only two marriages appear for men of this name in Australia in the years leading up to 1880. If she was really McIntosh then there were about 20 possible marriages in Victoria in that decade.

For now she will have to remain a mystery. If the Victorian marriage certificates ever become freely available we may be able to narrow down the candidates.

Some of the Sources

WalkingMelbourne Forum Post “Thanks for posting that wonderful old faded sign “Stationer & Printer’ in the Tramways Building shop front. The business was owned by my husband’s 2x great grandfather, John Collins, 1849-1911. He operated the shop there from 1902 until his tragic death in 1911, and it appears one of his sons continued there until about 1919, when the business disappears from the directories.
John Collins had previously been in partnership with Francis Gregory Dunn and Thomas Carter, as “Dunn, Carter and Collins” as early as 1871, when they had a store in Smith St, Collingwood in “The Arcade”. Does anyone know where this arcade might have been ? Carter left the business in Jun 1876. Dunn and Collins continued on, also having a shop on the corner of Bourke and Elizabeth Streets, diagonally opposite the GPO. I believe they were there until about 1885. Kozminsky jewelers were on that site shortly thereafter.”

1876 ‘Advertising.’, The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957), 20 June, p. 8, viewed 8 June, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5892453
DISSOLUTION of PARTNERSHIP. — Notice is hereby given, that the PARTNERSHIP hitherto subsisting between us, the undersigned, as Booksellers and Stationers, under the respective styles of “Dunn, Carter, and Company ” and “Dunn, Carter and Collins,” has this day been DISSOLVED by mutual consent ; and that the said business will henceforth be carried on under the style of ” Dunn and Collins ” by the underslgned, Francis Gregory Dunn and John Collins the Younger, by whom all debts due to and by the late firm will be received and paid. Dated at Melbourne this 14th day of June, A D. 1876. F. G. DUNN. JOHN COLLINS. THOS. CARTER, Witness-W. H. C. Darvall, solicitor, Melbourne.

1876 ‘Advertising.’, The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957), 4 September, p. 8, viewed 8 June, 2013, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5901147
HINDOO SATIRES on AMMONIAC SQUIRTS in SNAKE-BITES. Sold by Dunn and Collins, booksellers, opposite Post-office, Melbourne. Extracts appear weekly in ” Collingwood Mercury.”

Elsie Ross’ Album

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Cover

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Elsie Ross

This album was left with Mary Shaw on the death of her cousin Elsie Ross. Growing up, Elsie Ross was just “Auntie Elsie” who usually turned up for Christmas meals. I don’t think anybody except Mary knew exactly how she was related to us. I’ve since worked out that she was my “first cousin three times removed”, her mother being the sister of my great grandfather, Thomas Mitchell Hale.

Elsie’s mother died in 1939, twenty years after her father. Her only sibling, Roy, had died in the Great War so I guess it was to be close to her cousins that she returned to Victoria from Tasmania in the 1940s. Besides my great aunts she had other cousins but I’m not sure how much she saw of them. My memories of her blur a little into those of the other real and assumed aunts but I do remember being a little spoiled by her as a very young boy.

This album is small and contains only a few photos and some of these were inserted by Mary later. There’s Elsie with her mother, Elsie as a child and the snap on the left from the 40s, maybe on her return to Melbourne. Apart from these there’s a set six photos that seem to have been taken while on a picnic around 1900. Elsie is in some but the names of the other subjects can only be guessed at. It does seem strange that there is no portrait of her father or brother and I have to wonder if these few photos are all that remain of a larger set.

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Elsie and her mother

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Above is Elsie with her mother, Elizabeth Hannah Ross (nee Hale). It was taken about 1885, most likely at the Piper Street Kyneton studio of photographer William Hordle Smith. The photo below is also by Smith, now in Mollison Street, and from Elsie’s age would have been taken about 1890.

More portraits by W. H. Smith can be found at the State Library of Victoria and also a group shot of the Kyneton Angling Club. Maybe Elsie’s father is in this group. As the local undertaker operating near Smith in the Kyneton High Street it is at least a possibility.

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Elsie

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Picnic – Early 1900s

The rest of the photos in Elsie’s album seem to be amateur shots taken all on the same day. They are printed on very thin paper and are now extremely brittle. There are no captions.

Below is a group at the base of some river falls. I can only guess that this is close by Kyneton where the family were living until 1916. The Campaspe River runs through Kyneton but doesn’t seem to have much in the way of similar features. A couple of miles to the southwest of Kyneton is the Coliban River and on it are a number of dams. I’m guessing that this shot was taken somewhere near there prior to the construction of the reservoirs, on a quick read early last century.

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Group at the Falls

Just left of centre in this detail from the photo above there is a photographer with his camera and wooden tripod.
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Detail

With some minor variations this group below appears in all except the last of the rest of the photos. I think it is Elsie in the foreground with the white ribbon on her hat. I would put her age at mid to late teens and the photo 1900 to 1905. The ring on her finger is a mystery.

So who are the others? Is it possible that the older man and woman are her mother and father who would have been 54 and 60 in 1900? Try as I might I can’t see her mother from the 1885 photo as the older woman here. Could the man with moustache and glasses be brother Roy? Born in 1888 Roy would have only been 15 in 1903. Maybe the photo was taken later? Or is this Elsie with a beau and his family?

Look closely at the photos and you will see what looks like a box camera near the billy in front of the older man. Note also the fur around the shoulders of the younger man. Leather bound books can be seen front left of the third photo. In the second last Elsie and the young man can just be seen sitting in the grass on the other side of the dam. A water pipe crosses the top of the hill in the last photo.

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Family

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Linley Gertrude Ellson and ?

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1922 & 1924

These postcards were found loose in an album Mary Shaw inherited from her cousin Elsie Ross. My guess is that they were Mary’s postcards and put much later into that album for safekeeping. This seemed to be more likely as I uncovered connections between the Shaws and the subject of the 1924 card on the right.

Looking at the 1924 electoral roll, we find Linley living with her parents at 193 Hotham Street not far from Mary’s family at Mayfield Street. Going back to 1903 the family is at 12 The Avenue opposite the Shaws’ Old Hiawatha. The link becomes even stronger. Linley’s mother was originally Edith Lucy Farr and in 1888 her brothers Arthur and Leigh purchased at least four parcels of land from John Gourlay’s subdivision of The Avenue one of which included Old Hiawatha and what was left of its grounds.

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There may be more to the Ellson-Shaw connection. Linley’s father travelled to Perth and the Bunbury area in the 1880s and 1890s. Maybe this had some connection with the Shaws’ exodus there in the mid-1890s?

The 1922 photograph was produced by T. Humphrey and Co. (written below the portrait). According to “The Mechanical Eye” which documents Australian photographers until 1900 this studio operated at 262 Collins Street, Melbourne and a quick web search suggests that they were there at least until 1910.

The 1924 photograph was produced by The Allan Studio of Smith Street, Collingwood a business that seems to have operated in that street from about 1888 until the mid to late 1900s at least.

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The Rest of Lavinia’s Red Album

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Lavinia’s Red Album

This post is really just tidying up loose ends. I started this blog to share the photographs and identify the subjects in a set of Shaw family albums. Lavinia Shaw’s red album was my starting point. The photos in it include portraits from the 1860s and 1870s, groups from the 1880s, and some commercial prints from about the same time. The last few pages of the album are filled with newspaper cuttings and so as to give the feel of the complete album I’ve added some of them here.
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Cuttings

Above is just one of about a dozen pages of newspaper cuttings. Lavinia seemed drawn especially to photographs of Victoria, Yorkshire and the royals. Romantic scenes are by far the most common but in the bottom right corner a touch of the “modern” creeps in with the traffic. Plenty of clues but still not sure where it was taken.
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Single Cutting – 1920s?

What was it about this picture?
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Single Cutting – 1930s?

And to finish this album …..

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March 22, 2013 at 5:12 pm

Bought Ones (Scotland)

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The last of the commercial prints or postcards in Lavinia‘s album are these four of scenes around Edinburgh. Olive Shaw in 1962 said that Lavinia’s father had a trip overseas probably to Scotland in about 1891 or 1892 “with wife, Eileen and Olive plus Effie, Eva and nurse” and another with youngest daughter Ailsa in about 1897 but it is unclear whether Lavinia accompanied them on either. Whatever the case, these postcards are likely from one of those trips.

The initials “J.V.” on three of the prints indicate that they were by the studio of James Valentine, one of the most prolific commercial photographers operating in Scotland at that time. The other with initials “G.W.W” would be from the studio of his largest competitor, George Washington Wilson (no relation to Margaret as far as I can determine).

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The Chancel, Rosslyn Chapel

The Chancel, Rosslyn Chapel

James Valentine studio (1880s?)

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Melrose Abbey

Melrose Abbey

James Valentine studio (1880s?)

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Dryburgh Abbey

Dryburgh Abbey

James Valentine studio (1880s?)

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“Linlithgow Palace”

Linlithgow Palace

George Washington Wilson studio (1880s?)

Not “Old Hiawatha”

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Most of the photos in Lavinia‘s album were taken at “Old Hiawatha” or at least in or even before its time. Apart from the “postcards” a few from a slightly later time have found their way into the album. The family moved in the late 1880s to a “new” Hiawatha in Brighton where they stayed for a few years before most of them moved on to Perth.
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“Chevy Chase”

“Chevy Chase”, home of the Binnie family, was an almost identical house next door to the new Hiawatha. This and the following photo may have been taken by John Binnie or maybe even Herbert Shaw.
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“Entrance Hiawatha”

“Chevy Chase” and “Hiawatha” both fronted Hampton Street. Lavinia wrote below it “Entrance Hiawatha” and later Mary Shaw added “Hampton St Brighton”.
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Segovia

In 1900 my great grandparents Herbert Shaw and Caroline Hale married. Herbert was in Perth for some years before but the two had known each other since at least the early 1890s. This is Caroline’s home Segovia in Auburn Road Hawthorn and on the verandah can be seen Caroline, her sister Annie Bertha, her father and step-mother.
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“Hale’s Auburn Road”

Life in the early 90s doesn’t look so hard. Here is a mix of Shaws, Hales and others at “Segovia”. I tried a couple of years ago to identify the subjects here but still have some doubts. I have the girl at the< back left as Effie Shaw but she looks to be the same person as in the photo below and Mary Shaw has her as Lavinia.
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“Moss Lea Hay St Perth”

“Moss Lea” in Hay (then Howick) Street, home of the Shaws in the 1890s. Lavinia’s caption is above and Mary Shaw later added “Lavinia Shaw and Olive and Eileen Shaw ?1893″ and a second copy of this photo has the caption “Dec 1895″.
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“SS Helen at Mildura Wharf”

This is the only Mildura photo in this album. A better copy of it appears with a number of other Mildura photographs is in one of Herbert Shaw‘s albums and I’ve taken the SS Helen caption from that. It quite possibly was taken by Herbert. His initials, scratched onto glass negatives, are visible on two or three other prints and many years ago his daughter’s garden shed contained some of his glass negatives, unfortunately now long gone.

Herbert’s album has a few scenes of early Mildura but so far I’ve been unable to find a connection to the family. Most of them are of and around the building of the Mildura Coffee Palace and maybe that’s the connection. I’ve come across a number of hints that his father was involved in the temperance movement and the spread of these pub replacements in the 1890s (Alfred might be impressed by Melbourne’s current glut of coffee outlets but maybe not by the 24 hour alcohol trading).

I put a few Mildura references here a few years back but maybe I’ll try a bit harder to find the connection in a future post.

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